WARNING: really really long post. i should really blog about this weekend, but talking to sara and reading heather's latest
post has gotten me thinking about the idea of relative intelligence and dating a person who isn't your equal, whether intellectually or physically or socio-economically, and all the attendant issues. heather said a lot of interesting things in her post, including this:
"this all has me convinced that it is scientifically impossible to have a lasting relationship with someone who isn't as smart as you. because there will be that constant worrying that you're coming off as superior no matter what you're doing or how hard you're trying not too. and there's that constant fear that the less smart person secretly resents you for being more intelligent. all of this is just a bad set up for a relationship, especially the secret resentment. because then you wonder, is this resentment motivating some of their actions (like how joe insulted me sometimes) or are they just a mean person in general? either way, it's just bad."
that really is the truth. it doesn't just apply to significant others, though, it applies to friends as well. obviously in any group of friends there's going to be some sense of who's prettiest or who's smartest or funniest or whatever, and that in and of itself isn't evil because obviously your brain likes to categorize things and label people neatly, but it can definitely get sticky if one person feels like they have less to contribute or just aren't as funny/smart/hot as the rest, which in turn makes the others feel like they should be censoring themselves in some way so as not to make that person feel bad, which eventually puts strain on the relationship.
this kind of thing used to happen in high school, especially when it came to matters of grades, because i was friends with the 'smart kids', aka not the colleen-style popular girls and tim bourdon-esque jocks, and naturally there was competition there. competition, everyone knows, can be both healthy and unhealthy, and i think we can all agree that there were a lot of times at northwest when it was just unhealthy. remember when some people's report cards accidentally had class ranks on them, and people ran around trying to figure out who was where, and suddenly it was obvious why they weren't listed on there in the first place?
sara mentioned today on the phone that while she felt a lot of the time like she wasn't as smart in high school, when she got outside our group and met other people like her boyfriend tyler's friends she suddenly realized how much more intelligent she was than them. it is true that being really close with people who are also intelligent and like to learn makes you kind of shocked to meet people our age who just don't care.
which brings me to that idea of relative intelligence...you'd think it'd be pretty easy to rank in your mind who, of your friends and acquaintances, would be most likely to get an A on a test or something like that. but it might depend, especially if you have many highly intelligent friends, which test it was. advanced poetry, i got an A in that. now, multivariable calculus? umm.....i'd leave that for popham the math major. history? yeah i could probably do it if i studied my ass off *grimaces at thought of court* but someone like meredith who loves history would have an easier time of it. ditto for someone who enjoys science, like rae taking chem. it's all different, different types of intelligences respond to different things. that extends to things like SATs, where we know damn well they don't accurately represent intelligence. it depends on whether you are good are taking standardized tests as well as how smart you are. for instance take me, rae, and hilary scurlock. when the scores came in, hilary got a perfect, then there was my score and then there was rae's score, which she was not very pleased with. i'll be the first to admit that i consider rae to be smarter than i am, and definitely a harder worker in high school, as evidenced by her lovely saludatory address at graduation. yes, hilary was a smart girl and she deserved her score, the little harvard hussy, but rae's score was definitely not representative of her abilities. it happened to plenty of other people i know, too, whihc is why it sucks that SATs are so important to getting into college (and don't let htem lie to you, i heard it from the horse's mouth in admissions, they really do put emphasis on those scores). not that it hurt rae much lol.
this carries beyond academia, in my opinion. not everyone is book smart, and though i pride myself on my intelligence because for many years i felt like it was the saving grace of an otherwise useless lump of human being, i know that there are other types of intelligence out there, like people who can work with machines, or people who have really good social skills, like diplomats. also, i don't believe someone's level of book smarts significantly affects what i would call their "ambient intelligence", or like their day-to-day reasoning, conversation, and personality. yes there are times when i use really big words or when people tell me i 'talk funny', but it's not like i can't have a great time and interesting conversations with someone who talks differently. i talk and write the way i do because i am a product of many years of voracious reading, and i simply prefer to talk and write in this fashion. people's book smarts don't generally affect their ability to be really cool people who are fun to be around. if the conversation turns to, say, the Cold War arms race or genetic modification of crops, certain people might have nothing to say, but that doesn't mean they have a fundamentally lower level of understanding or analysis.
which brings me to heather's post again, on the topic of relationships. i've learned that yeah, it really does help to be equals. equals obviously doesn't mean the same, since tommy and i have definitely realized that a lot of our opinions are diametrically opposed (music, cars, golf). but there's still a sense of being equal in personality, like that person is a match for you, not in the yenta-matchmaker way, but in the sense that they could take you on, that you could 'clash' with them, so to speak, and it would be a fair fight. over past months and past relationships i tried to evaluate what was it that i wanted in someone to consider them a good match. being able to converse intelligently and argue is high on the list. it's not like i feel the driving urge to argue about stuff, but i enjoy it. tommy and i can argue about stuff without me ever feeling like i have to dumb something down or "censor myself" as heather put it, although if he runs out of things to say he does tend to resort to the old "fuck you!" lol. it's amusing to catch myself going into debate mode, where i actually think of things as "points" and even 'signpost', especially when i fight with my mom.
actually tommy and i had an argument about arguing like last week, because he said something and then couldn't come up with any examples to back it up, and i said that was so not a valid point if you couldn't elaborate or prove it through examples, like on debate, and he called me a nerd and said life wasn't debate team, but (as i then went on to demonstrate WITH examples) it really does give you skills for life, because it teaches you how to argue just about anything, and also reminds you to watch your ass, to know which points are weak and which you should definitely harp on, and to argue intelligently, without personal attacks. if you have to convince your boss that your opinion about a project is the right one, you would have to state your points clearly and concisely and then be able to effectively counter any of his criticisms or differences. it also teaches you to evaluate things from a bunch of perspectives.
example here: a debate i judged at NYU, where the crazy kids from simon's rock college proposed that whenever the palestinians committed a suicide attack, the israeli government should systematically exterminate the entire family of that bomber, to discourage future attacks. their reasoning was fight fire with fire, show strength, etc, and that suicide bombers are willing to die but not willing to sacrifice their families. there are so many ways to approach this.
1. from the international perspective, this is a gross violation of any sort of human rights treaties or conventions. even if it's not considered a state of war, those families are non-combatants who have done nothing wrong but be related to the criminal. israel would lose all of its international support, which it desperately needs to cover its ass.
2. from the US perspective: we've always helped Israel, we were instrumental in its creation in 1947, but there's no way the liberals in this country would stand by this policy. Israel would lose its staunchest ally and supplier.
3. the moral perspective: two wrongs do not make a right. this is just adding evil to evil and accelerating the cycle of violence, basically fighting a war of attrition with the terrorists.
4. the home front: as much as israelis hate palestinians, the average israeli does NOT want its government murdering innocent people. it's just insane.
5. psychology: understanding the mind of the suicide bomber. who's to say that a deeply religion person with little to lose won't be willing to sacrifice his family for his god?
i don't actually remember the reasons the opposing side used, those are just the ones that come to mind, but that particular case (which i obviously gave to side Opp because c'mon, that's a horrible idea to even bring up and those kids were fucking nuts) is a good example of how debate preps you to deal with concepts that you may have never even thought about before, and therefore gives you an edge in regular arguments.
i know i'm being heather-esque here in terms of length, but you know, this journal is for me to organize my thoughts, so i don't care. if you're still reading this, kudos.
ANYWAY, back to me thinking about what i wanted in a guy. in early april i posted this: now there's tommy. he's dynamic, talkative, funny, hot...i like talking to him, he challenges me, he makes me feel comfortable and he's aggressive, too. i realized today that this is the kind of guy i want, this is the "type", if you will. it doesn't really matter how they look or how tall they are, i've been all over the map on that one, this is the basic formula for someone who could make michelle happy. the problem is, i've thoroughly convinced myself that i just shouldn't have a boyfriend because i feel like i get infatuated too easily. i go too deep, too fast, and then i break the surface a few weeks later wondering what the hell got into me. i fear my one-month turnaround. i fear asking someone out, losing interest, and then having to hurt their feelings. i fear someone becoming overly attached to me, i fear that i could believe myself to be attached and really not be. " the challenge, that's it. i'm not talking like a conquest, of course, i'm talking someone whose personality challenges you and brings out the best in you. i don't think that someone who isn't your equal can really challenge you; but like i said, you don't have to be on the same level with everything. naturally with me being an english major and a writer and an avid reader, i like things that are spelled properly and grammatically correct and yeah, i'll admit it, it irks me to see people using incorrect grammar or misusing/misspelling words. that's just me. tommy told me i'm a nerd because i looked at a picture paul had made of tommy's house and pointed out that it's not "The Tuccio's", it's "The Tuccios'", but hey, i consider that important. Tommy's grammar skills are not exactly what i would optimally prefer them to be, but he definitely has the upper hand on me with other things. like cars. i'm an idiot when it comes to all things mechanical, i know that. i don't know as much as he does about outdoorsy stuff, or guns. he really likes history, too, he's always mentioning stuff he sees on the history channel. he's teaching me to play chess, which i'm practicing on my computer lol because i would like to be able to play competently. he's also supposed to teach me how to drive stick, eventually, because it'll probably be a useful skill someday.
i just feel like we kind of balance each other out. we have our own areas of things we love, although i don't go on about art or books the way he goes on about engines and car modifications lol. it doesn't seem to bother him that i don't know what he's talking about a lot of the time, or that i really don't care how much power one motorcycle has relative to another, but i wouldn't generally go on and on about art unless i knew the person i was talking to was interested and hopefully knew a bit about what i was talking about. it would feel too didactic otherwise.
what does this all come down to...that i agree with what heather said, basically...i'm not so sure about the part where in order to balance, the poorer person should be hotter or the hot one should be less funny or something. that seems a bit too drastic, because the poor one would still feel like a kept woman, just a hot kept woman, wouldn't she? i can't really imagine dating someone who was excessively wealthy. i really wouldn't be comfortable having someone spend lavish sums of money on me. it sounds nice in theory, but in practice i doubt it would work. hell, i just got comfortable with the let-the-guy-pay-for-it idea, and i'm not really an expensive girlfriend lol. as for someone really hot, i wouldn't mind. please, i SO deserve johnny depp. i think dating someone who was a lot funnier than i am would bother me only if he had the same sense of humor as i did. i don't know if i could deal with someone equally sarcastic...mmm...thinking of steve from high school. yum. as for someone smarter than me, i think i could deal with that, i would enjoy someone who had as much random knowledge as me lol.
thinking of this now makes me think of my parents. my dad was freakishly smart in the math/science department, and an absolute moron when it came to spelling. he couldn't even spell "necessary" (nesessary, in his mind) when i was like in fifth grade, but he doodled Planck's Constant and worked out gas laws in his journal. how he got a master's degree without being able to spell is truly beyond me. i've been tempted to examine his master's thesis for typos, but it's on "radiation creep" in some random isotope, so no thanks. my mom, on the other hand, is a licensed nurse who never went to college. she has pretty good english and grammar skills, but she doesn't have the appetite for knowledge my dad did. yet their marriage worked out, and i considered them equals, although i knew to go to dad with my math questions. actually, i stopped asking for help in like sixth grade, because, as my math teacher ms mandzuk told me, having dealt with my dad with jen, engineers always approach a problem like there is one way to do it, and usually it's really hard and long. it was so the truth.